History, People, Who am I

Four people inside V C Jones on Harbour Street

Dan

By Dan

 

1/4
One named. The woman standing is Muriel Watson, named by three people independently. Three still to go — if you recognise a face, tell me and I’ll put the name here with your credit.

 

I‘ve been going through a box of family photographs, the kind that gets moved from house to house and never sorted. This one was near the bottom, face down, with a pencil mark on the back I still can’t read.

It’s the inside of V C Jones at 25 Harbour Street — my family’s old fish and chip restaurant. The family sold it a few years ago and it trades as Harbour Street Fish Bar now, still frying fish, and the room inside has barely changed.

Fish Lunches and Fish Suppers painted straight onto the window glass, read backwards from where the photographer was standing. Formica tables, bentwood chairs, a chrome coffee machine the size of a small engine, and tins stacked in a pyramid on the shelf by the door.

There are four people in it. A man working the counter in a dark peaked cap. A man in a flat cap standing at the back. A woman standing in a light overall, looking straight at whoever was holding the camera. And a woman having her lunch, with her shopping bag on the floor beside her chair.

My grandparents might have known who every one of them was. They’ve been gone a few years now and my parents don’t know.

So I’m asking the town instead.

 

Interior of V C Jones fish and chip restaurant, Harbour Street, Whitstable, showing four unidentified people, formica tables and Fish Lunches painted on the window.
25 Harbour Street. From my family’s collection. Date unknown, and it may predate my family’s time at the shop — see the case log. Published as it is. Nothing on this site is colourised, retouched or cropped to flatter.

 

The people

1

Unidentified man standing behind the counter at V C Jones, Harbour Street, Whitstable

Standing behind the counter
Dark hair, white short-sleeved shirt, head down over his work. Handwritten price cards on the wall behind him. Almost certainly staff.

Not yet named

2

Unidentified man in a flat cap standing at the far end of the room inside V C Jones, Harbour Street, Whitstable

Standing at the far end
Flat cap, dark clothes, on his own with his hands in front of him. Looks like a regular rather than someone passing through.

Not yet named

3

Unidentified woman in a light overall standing among the tables inside V C Jones, Harbour Street, Whitstable

Muriel Watson
Light overall with dark cuffs, standing among the tables and looking straight at the camera. Named by three people independently, one of them her granddaughter.

Named

4

Unidentified woman with a dark bob eating lunch at a table inside V C Jones, Harbour Street, Whitstable

Eating in the restaurant
Dark bob, cream jumper, shopping bag on the floor beside her chair. The only person in the photograph who’s sitting down.

Not yet named

5

A fifth person in the doorway at V C Jones, Harbour Street, Whitstable, seen only as a white overall, a leg and a foot on the floor

In the doorway
A white overall, and below it a leg and a foot on the floor. The rest is hidden by the pillar. Almost certainly staff, going in or out of the back — there isn’t enough of her to name, but she was there.

Barely visible

 

The evidence

What can be read off the photograph itself, before anyone tells me anything.

 
A Seven-Up advertising card standing on the counter beside the till.
 
Handwritten price cards pinned on the wall behind the counter. I can see them but I can’t read them.
 
Formica tables, bentwood chairs, fluorescent strip lighting and a ceiling heater.
 
Tinned goods stacked on the shelf at the left.

 

What’s written on the back

A pencil mark in three parts. I can make out a w, then a 6 between two slashes, then two characters I can’t settle at all. If it’s a date it would be June of something — but I’m not certain it is a date rather than a print reference or a filing code.
If you can read it better than I can, that’s as useful as a name.
Pencil mark on the back of the V C Jones photograph, unread

The same mark with the contrast increased so it can be read. Nothing else has been altered.

The same pencil mark with the contrast increased, showing a w, a 6 between two slashes and two unread characters

Where it came from

My family’s own collection. No caption, no album.

 

The case log

    • 6 September
      The date is settled. A man of ninety-nine whose family ran the shop before mine has looked at the photographs and says they are from my family’s time, after 1962. He also says the only person his family employed there was a Mrs Pike, who isn’t in the picture. That closes the question of whether this predates my grandparents.
  • 6 September
    Three people have now offered the same name for the woman standing — Muriel Watson. Two of them came to it independently and one is her granddaughter. That’s the first identification here with more than one source behind it. The man behind the counter has two possible names, so he stays open.
  • 5 September
    Two possible names have come in. The man behind the counter may be Len, who worked in the shop with my grandfather. The woman standing has been suggested as two different people. Both are family memory rather than record, so neither goes on this page as a name yet. Someone who was there in the 1950s, now ninety-nine, is being shown the photographs.
  • 4 September
    Several readers connect the restaurant to Mr and Mrs W Thomas, who ran it before my family took it on. One remembers Friday suppers there in the late 1950s. Another, whose parents owned it, doesn’t recognise anyone in the photograph. My mum says my grandparents Viv and Joyce Jones took the business on in 1962. Both dates I have are family memory rather than record, and I’m trying to settle it properly.
  • 3 September
    Case opened. Four people, no names, no date.

 

Harbour Street today

Number 25 is still a fish and chip restaurant. It trades as Harbour Street Fish Bar.

Not photographed yet.

 

What I still don’t know

 
Who the other three are.
 
The year. It’s after 1962, but that leaves a lot of room. The pencil mark on the back may or may not be a date.
 
What the handwritten price cards behind the counter say. Prices would date it more closely than anything else here.
 
Which years Muriel worked there.
 
Who took the photograph, and why. It isn’t an obvious thing to photograph on an ordinary weekday.

 

If you recognise a face, remember the room, or can read that pencil mark — we’d love to hear.

Fact & Folklore
Fact — what the records show
The photograph comes from my family’s collection. It carries no caption, no date and no photographer’s mark, and there is nothing on the back but a pencil note in three parts.
Held by Dan.
V C Jones traded at 25 Harbour Street. The family sold the business and the premises now trade as Harbour Street Fish Bar, still as a fish and chip restaurant.
Current trading name at 25 Harbour Street.
Folklore — what the town says
Nothing yet. Anything told to me by more than one person, without a record behind it, will be recorded here rather than in the article above.
Often repeated, and wrong
Nothing yet. If anything published on this page turns out to be wrong, the correction will appear here rather than in a silent edit.

If you’re connected to anyone in this photograph and would rather it wasn’t here, email me and I’ll take it down.

Got a photograph nobody can name?

Send it to me and I’ll try to find out who’s in it. Photograph the back as well, if there’s writing on it.

Send a photograph

 

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